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On Wednesday, 20 May 2015 04:37:13 UTC+2, palsing wrote:
Read it and weep, Gerald... https://gma.yahoo.com/leap-second-wh...opstories.html \Paul A Anyone want a free second? Only used once. Pristine condition in original packaging. Collection only. |
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On Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 3:37:13 AM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
Read it and weep, Gerald... https://gma.yahoo.com/leap-second-wh...opstories.html \Paul A After you give yourself the choice to go beyond the 'solar vs sidereal' fiction a while ago by asserting rotation to multiple celestial objects I decided to protect you by withdrawing from any further comments. Normally people enjoy their ability to reason out such things as the necessity of an extra leap day rotation (84,000 seconds) which brings the proportion of daily rotations to orbital circuits to a close proximity based on a parent observation of 1461 rotations to 4 orbital circuits. Old men cackling with glee over a 'leap second' notion robs students and adults of the enjoyment of the original insight where timekeeping and the motions of the Earth merge for it is an offspring of the contemptible notion that the proportion of rotations to orbital circuits is 1465 rotations to 4 circuits. There is no time for weeping or bitterness as long as a community insists in making fools of themselves by not going to the historical and technical foundations of timekeeping and the external cyclical references from which the 24 hour system and the Lat/Long system emerged. |
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On Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 1:05:04 AM UTC-6, oriel36 wrote:
Old men cackling with glee over a 'leap second' notion There would be nothing to cackle with glee about were it not for your adamant denial that the 'leap second' makes sense. Before people had atomic clocks, the motions of the planets were found to be best expressed in Ephemeris Time, which was a tad over 32 seconds out of step with civil time when it was abandoned and atomic time was adopted, using a second intended to be of the same length as its second, as the new civil time scale. It is not pretentious to seek the ability to perform timekeeping with very high accuracy and precision so that equipment for, say, radio communications can be accurately tuned, as an example. This has meant that the clock, not the Sun, is held as the ultimate standard. The clock is set to what the Sun _was_ doing at a time in the past, and then is no longer changed - and the Earth is seen to slow down due to the tidal effects of the Moon's gravity, exactly as Newton predicted. John Savard |
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![]() INTERNATIONAL EARTH ROTATION AND REFERENCE SYSTEMS SERVICE (IERS) SERVICE INTERNATIONAL DE LA ROTATION TERRESTRE ET DES SYSTEMES DE REFERENCE SERVICE DE LA ROTATION TERRESTRE DE L'IERS OBSERVATOIRE DE PARIS 61, Av. de l'Observatoire 75014 PARIS (France) Tel. : 33 (0) 1 40 51 22 26 FAX : 33 (0) 1 40 51 22 91 e-mail : http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc Paris, 5 January 2015 Bulletin C 49 To authorities responsible for the measurement and distribution of time UTC TIME STEP on the 1st of July 2015 A positive leap second will be introduced at the end of June 2015. The sequence of dates of the UTC second markers will be: 2015 June 30, 23h 59m 59s 2015 June 30, 23h 59m 60s 2015 July 1, 0h 0m 0s The difference between UTC and the International Atomic Time TAI is: from 2012 July 1, 0h UTC, to 2015 July 1 0h UTC : UTC-TAI = - 35s from 2015 July 1, 0h UTC, until further notice : UTC-TAI = - 36s Leap seconds can be introduced in UTC at the end of the months of December or June, depending on the evolution of UT1-TAI. Bulletin C is mailed every six months, either to announce a time step in UTC or to confirm that there will be no time step at the next possible date. Daniel Gambis Head Earth Orientation Center of IERS Observatoire de Paris, France |
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On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 2:59:38 AM UTC+1, Sam Wormley wrote:
INTERNATIONAL EARTH ROTATION AND REFERENCE SYSTEMS SERVICE (IERS) The 'leap second' notion occupies the same intellectual standing as the guy who comes to this forum and thinks he sees a human skull in a coal vein and draws the inevitable conclusion. To be out by a full rotation within an orbital circuit is intolerable by virtue that the entire timekeeping system and where it merges with the planetary cycles has never been explained properly. This is an incredibly painful experience to witness the 'solar vs sidereal' fiction expressed in its full horror - The 'leap second' notion occupies the same intellectual standing as the guy who comes to this forum and thinks he sees a human skull in a coal vein and draws the inevitable conclusion. To be out by a full rotation within an orbital circuit is intolerable by virtue that the entire timekeeping system and where it merges with the planetary cycles has never been explained properly. This is an incredibly painful experience to witness the 'solar vs sidereal' fiction expressed in its full horror - "During one orbit around the Sun, Earth rotates about its own axis 366.26 times" Wikipedia Why should an entire civilization suffer this indignity each and every time these academics announce the Earth is slowing down/speeding up leading to a leap second while they can't express the logic behind the 24 hour system and the Lat/long system as an outrigger of the calendar framework ?. The 'leap second' notion is indicative of a situation where academics refuse to accept the dynamics behind the leap day rotation which closes out 4 orbital circuits of the Earth around the Sun to a close approximation. |
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