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Now, you see? What we need is some lateral thinking here! Everyone
wants to talk about the controversy but every is also missing the big chance to do something really cool! I'm talking about automated crop circle producing robots! And if we do a really great job on them, then we can take up a collection and send a few of them to Mars and really give them something to look at! Big geometric patterns dragged into the Martian dirt, complete with the imprinted plywood patterns. Or we could draw a whole body (a la Nazca lines) under the "face on Mars". Cheers! Chip Shults |
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On a related note...
If you look at the image at http://www.lyle.org/mars/oldmars/marstrue.jpg in the lower right quadrant, just below the middle of the airbag drag marks, there is a series of oddly regular pairs of white dots in the martian soil Some people I have shown this to agree that it might be a fossil, others are skeptical. Can anyone think of a way to enhance the image to better discern its origin? Could NASA be convinced to send Spirit back for a close-up? JRU "Carsten Troelsgaard" wrote in message . dk... snip NASA's Opportunity has examined its first patch of soil in the small crater where the rover landed on Mars and found strikingly spherical pebbles among the mix of particles there. snip |
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![]() wrote in message om... On a related note... If you look at the image at http://www.lyle.org/mars/oldmars/marstrue.jpg in the lower right quadrant, just below the middle of the airbag drag marks, there is a series of oddly regular pairs of white dots in the martian soil Some people I have shown this to agree that it might be a fossil, others are skeptical. Can anyone think of a way to enhance the image to better discern its origin? Could NASA be convinced to send Spirit back for a close-up? JRU I increased the resolution and looked at them more closely. Sorry to disappoint you, but they are just angular rocks. No fossils evident there. |
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Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote in message ...
February 5, 2004 Ron wrote: The shapes by themselves don't reveal the particles' origin with certainty. "A number of straightforward geological processes can yield round shapes," said Dr. Hap McSween, a rover science team member from the University of Tennessee, Knoxville. They include accretion under water, but apparent pores in the particles make alternative possibilities of meteor impacts or volcanic eruptions more likely origins, he said. Hint : Hap McSween, as in Harvey and McSween, the well known anti-mars-life geology crackpots. Thomas Lee Elifritz http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net Don't beleive him the Martian Crabs have taken him over: http://www.martiancrabs.com |
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Carla Schneider wrote in message ...
George wrote: The only problem with that idea is that lightning has never been observed on Mars, depsite the hundreds of thousands of photographs taken of the planet. If there were a lightning on Mars, we would not see it on a photograph of Mars Global Surveyor or Mars Express, execept maybe one single bright pixel, because these pictures are recorded line by line, and the time a lightning lasts is too short to be seen in more than one line. But lightnings could be easily detected by the radio waves they emit. I have no Idea if such observations have been carried out on Mars. Well it's a moot point:- Quote:- "Dust adhesion/cohesion, atmospheric transport and electrical storms on Mars may all be aspects of the same phenomena: the electrical activity of the suspended dust. Investigations are underway in the Mars simulation laboratory, which can quantify this electrification with the use of Mars analogue dust. " Endquote. http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ca...hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Endquote |
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![]() "George" wrote in message .. . "don findlay" wrote in message m... (Ron) wrote in message . com... MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIFORNIA 91109. TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Guy Webster (818) 354-5011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Donald Savage (202) 358-1547 NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. NEWS RELEASE: 2004-051 February 4, 2004 Opportunity Sees Tiny Spheres in Martian Soil The shapes by themselves don't reveal the particles' origin with certainty. "A number of straightforward geological processes can yield round shapes," said Dr. Hap McSween, a rover science team member from the University of Tennessee, Knoxville. They include accretion under water, but apparent pores in the particles make alternative possibilities of meteor impacts or volcanic eruptions more likely origins, he said. (Wild guess: fused iron and silica from electrical zaps like you get with 'crop circles') df. Despite the fact that crop circles were a hoax perpetrated on the public by two English scientists? Two Englishmen came clean about their nocturnal practices in 1991. Doug Bower and Dave Chorley, two men in their 60's at the time, claimed that they were responsible for the crop circles that everyone was talking about. Armed with planks of wood, garden rollers and string, the men would stomp and mark an area of a field, thus creating crop circles as we know them. Not to mention the obvious give away, that every crop circle photo shows the circle intersects some path or hedgerow leading to the edge of the field. So the perps can get in and out without leaving tracks. |
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![]() skrev i en meddelelse om... On a related note... If you look at the image at http://www.lyle.org/mars/oldmars/marstrue.jpg in the lower right quadrant, just below the middle of the airbag drag marks, there is a series of oddly regular pairs of white dots in the martian soil Some people I have shown this to agree that it might be a fossil, others are skeptical. a fossil of what? snip /Carsten |
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"Carsten Troelsgaard" wrote in message
k... Some people I have shown this to agree that it might be a fossil, others are skeptical. a fossil of what? You can't really tell, because of that stand of trees in the way. (ROTFL. Sorry. I usually do better at self control.) -- Randy M. Dumse www.newmicros.com Caution: Objects in mirror are more confused than they appear. |
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![]() "John Curtis" wrote Perhaps the silica was fused by the action of atmospheric oxygen on the primordial silicon emanating from a volcano. The pores remind me of pumice particles which may still harbor a few intact pumice bubbles containing the primordial constituents of the planetary interior. Check out this colorized shot where the spheres appear blue (handy for spotting them). They are evidently weathering out of the outcrop rocks, in this case "Snout." Several can be seen jutting out of the sides of the rock. http://www.copperas.com/astro/spheres.jpg The rock looks very weak. Joe |
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"Sir Charles W. Shults III" wrote in message m...
"George" wrote in message .. . snip Despite the fact that crop circles were a hoax perpetrated on the public by two English scientists? Two Englishmen came clean about their nocturnal practices in 1991. Doug Bower and Dave Chorley, two men in their 60's at the time, claimed that they were responsible for the crop circles that everyone was talking about. Armed with planks of wood, garden rollers and string, the men would stomp and mark an area of a field, thus creating crop circles as we know them. Well, realize that this is a red herring in itself- crop circles have been reported all over the world and for centuries. I am certain that these two gentlemen did not make them all. Not to say that other people did not; that is the simplest explanation, certainly. But that is like soaping fountains around your town and then admitting it; then having everyone assume that all fountain soaping pranks were done by you. Cheers! Chip Shults Most fountain soapinga are done by aliens. |
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