MARS SPECIAL INTEREST MISSIONS: NASA NOW WORKS FOR HALLIBURTON

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:49:08 -0000, "nick" wrote:

lol what makes you think Martian oil is of ANY USE TO US WHATSOEVER

You need to ask Dick Cheney/Halliburton and NASA that question. My guess
is it's a great way to suck up more of those precious tax dollars that
NASA's been complaining they never get enough of. So instead NASA spends
it's money serving the interests of oil companies rather than science, like
the Hubble Telescope which benefitted everyone. Go figure.



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NASA Ames Center looks at problem of drilling on Mars


Kristen Nelson

PNA Editor-in-Chief


If there is life on Mars, it would probably be microorganisms in water deep
below the surface of the planet. Dr. Geoffrey Briggs, director, Center for
Mars Exploration at the NASA Ames Center, told "Meet Alaska" that NASA is
looking at ways to drill on Mars to look for water - and the life it might
contain.

Briggs said NASA has been working with Halliburton, Shell, Baker-Hughes and
the Los Alamos National Laboratory to identify drilling technologies that
might work on Mars.

The first goal, he said, would be "to drill a hole down into the permafrost,
maybe 100 meters as a trial of the technology; ultimately we want to go to
several kilometers."

The earliest drilling opportunity would be 2007, and one of the problems
will be power. A very power-efficient system might cut out cores a meter at
a time, Briggs said, perhaps grinding away at material needed to get the
core at a rate of one core a day for hundreds of days.

Deeper drilling, into the multi-kilometer range, might occur as part of a
2014 Mars mission which would put astronauts on the planet to assist.

Los Alamos developed a melting tool intended for use in high-technical
geothermal drilling, he said, and that's one of the things NASA is looking
at. The melting tool would also "tend to sterilize the hole on the way down"
which would help with the problem of contamination issues.

Halliburton and Baker-Hughes are working on some very advanced systems,
Briggs said, some so advanced they aren't willing to talk much about them.
He said the NASA Ames Center relies on working with people in the industry
who "really understand the problems and make us face up to the realities .

"We do appreciate," he said, "that this is a non-trivial activity."

And as a side note: There's be no reason to expect oil on Mars if NASA
didn't have prior undisclosed knowledge that Mars once had abundant planet
and animal life.

NASA is lying to the public big time.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:45:05 +0000, Jock wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:27:40 GMT, none wrote:

And as a side note: There's be no reason to expect oil on Mars if NASA
didn't have prior undisclosed knowledge that Mars once had abundant plant
and animal life.

NASA is lying to the public big time.

Wonder who'll get the contract to build the pipeline?

Probably Halliburton or Shell. What I'd like to know is who would bear the
costs of shipping oil back to Earth -- I'd guess is that would be
incorporated in NASA's budget and the taxpayers will pay for it -- if that's
their plan.

Though since Mars apparently has oil, it could become colonized easily with
the readily available fuel source. Of course that would bring the same
problems to Mars that Earth has with hydrocarbon pollution. And given that
NASA has been so deceptive in their motivations to go to Mars, I wouldn't be
surprised if they have other plans that they've not told anyone about.

Let's face it, no where on the news did NASA announce they pan to drill for
oil as their reasoning to go to Mars. People think it's a scientific
mission, but instead it is serving some hidden agenda.

I thought I would make this one easier by posting it to the top.

Since no one likes Bush/Chaney and Halliburton et al, and the whines go on
forever.... Lets see some positive come from this group for a change.

Now that we know you don't like the above, who would you use for any of the
things that companies like HB does? And I am sure that you don't like the
oil producers, so who would you use? Who has the experience to get the job
done. Come on people, step up to the plate and do your best. It is easy to
talk about how bad someone is, now provide a solution.

What company do you want doing exploration in the wilderness?

Answers, find the solution if you know where problem is.......



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NASA Ames Center looks at problem of drilling on Mars


Kristen Nelson

PNA Editor-in-Chief


If there is life on Mars, it would probably be microorganisms in water
deep
below the surface of the planet. Dr. Geoffrey Briggs, director, Center for
Mars Exploration at the NASA Ames Center, told "Meet Alaska" that NASA is
looking at ways to drill on Mars to look for water - and the life it might
contain.

Briggs said NASA has been working with Halliburton, Shell, Baker-Hughes
and
the Los Alamos National Laboratory to identify drilling technologies that
might work on Mars.

The first goal, he said, would be "to drill a hole down into the
permafrost,
maybe 100 meters as a trial of the technology; ultimately we want to go to
several kilometers."

The earliest drilling opportunity would be 2007, and one of the problems
will be power. A very power-efficient system might cut out cores a meter
at
a time, Briggs said, perhaps grinding away at material needed to get the
core at a rate of one core a day for hundreds of days.

Deeper drilling, into the multi-kilometer range, might occur as part of a
2014 Mars mission which would put astronauts on the planet to assist.

Los Alamos developed a melting tool intended for use in high-technical
geothermal drilling, he said, and that's one of the things NASA is looking
at. The melting tool would also "tend to sterilize the hole on the way
down"
which would help with the problem of contamination issues.

Halliburton and Baker-Hughes are working on some very advanced systems,
Briggs said, some so advanced they aren't willing to talk much about them.
He said the NASA Ames Center relies on working with people in the industry
who "really understand the problems and make us face up to the realities .

"We do appreciate," he said, "that this is a non-trivial activity."

And as a side note: There's be no reason to expect oil on Mars if NASA
didn't have prior undisclosed knowledge that Mars once had abundant planet
and animal life.

NASA is lying to the public big time.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:49:32 -0000, Mugwump wrote:

In article , ~~~~~
said......Nothing of importance.

You could have saved 650 lines by just putting the URL.

And please stop posting to uk.telecom.broadband. We are not interested

Some people still are using pine

On a sunny day (Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:17:47 GMT) it happened none
wrote in :

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:49:32 -0000, Mugwump wrote:

In article , ~~~~~
said......Nothing of importance.

You could have saved 650 lines by just putting the URL.

And please stop posting to uk.telecom.broadband. We are not interested

Some people still are using pine
Yes I am one of these (to read - , not to send mail).

"Clif Davis" wrote in message
om...
I thought I would make this one easier by posting it to the top.

Since no one likes Bush/Chaney and Halliburton et al, and the whines go on
forever.... Lets see some positive come from this group for a change.


I like all three of them... so I have no input I guess..




Now that we know you don't like the above, who would you use for any of
the
things that companies like HB does? And I am sure that you don't like the
oil producers, so who would you use? Who has the experience to get the job
done. Come on people, step up to the plate and do your best. It is easy to
talk about how bad someone is, now provide a solution.

What company do you want doing exploration in the wilderness?

Answers, find the solution if you know where problem is.......



"none" wrote in message
...
http://www.petroleumnews.com/pnarch/010228-49.html

NASA Ames Center looks at problem of drilling on Mars


Kristen Nelson

PNA Editor-in-Chief


If there is life on Mars, it would probably be microorganisms in water
deep
below the surface of the planet. Dr. Geoffrey Briggs, director, Center
for
Mars Exploration at the NASA Ames Center, told "Meet Alaska" that NASA
is
looking at ways to drill on Mars to look for water - and the life it
might
contain.

Briggs said NASA has been working with Halliburton, Shell, Baker-Hughes
and
the Los Alamos National Laboratory to identify drilling technologies
that
might work on Mars.

The first goal, he said, would be "to drill a hole down into the
permafrost,
maybe 100 meters as a trial of the technology; ultimately we want to go
to
several kilometers."

The earliest drilling opportunity would be 2007, and one of the problems
will be power. A very power-efficient system might cut out cores a meter
at
a time, Briggs said, perhaps grinding away at material needed to get the
core at a rate of one core a day for hundreds of days.

Deeper drilling, into the multi-kilometer range, might occur as part of
a
2014 Mars mission which would put astronauts on the planet to assist.

Los Alamos developed a melting tool intended for use in high-technical
geothermal drilling, he said, and that's one of the things NASA is
looking
at. The melting tool would also "tend to sterilize the hole on the way
down"
which would help with the problem of contamination issues.

Halliburton and Baker-Hughes are working on some very advanced systems,
Briggs said, some so advanced they aren't willing to talk much about
them.
He said the NASA Ames Center relies on working with people in the
industry
who "really understand the problems and make us face up to the realities
..

"We do appreciate," he said, "that this is a non-trivial activity."

And as a side note: There's be no reason to expect oil on Mars if NASA
didn't have prior undisclosed knowledge that Mars once had abundant
planet
and animal life.

NASA is lying to the public big time.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:40:43 -0500, "Paul R. Mays" wrote:

I like all three of them... so I have no input I guess..

I like them too very much. They're destroying what's left of this planet
and are the reason for it's demise.

Good deal, eh? And the aliens didn't have to do it for them!