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UC Berkeley Press Release Life leaves subtle signature in the lay of the land, UC Berkeley researchers report By Robert Sanders 25 January 2006 BERKELEY - One of the paradoxes of recent explorations of the Martian surface is that the more we see of the planet, the more it looks like Earth, despite a very big difference: Complex life forms have existed for billions of years on Earth, while Mars never saw life bigger than a microbe, if that. "The rounded hills, meandering stream channels, deltas and alluvial fans are all shockingly familiar," said William E. Dietrich, professor of earth and planetary science at the University of California, Berkeley. "This caused us to ask: Can we tell from topography alone, and in the absence of the obvious influence of humans, that life pervades the Earth? Does life matter?" In a paper published in the Jan. 26 issue of the journal Nature, Dietrich and graduate student J. Taylor Perron reported, to their surprise, no distinct signature of life in the landforms of Earth. "Despite the profound influence of biota on erosion processes and landscape evolution, surprisingly,...there are no landforms that can exist only in the presence of life and, thus, an abiotic Earth probably would present no unfamiliar landscapes," said Dietrich. Instead, Dietrich and Perron propose that life - everything from the lowest plants to large grazing animals - creates a subtle effect on the land not obvious to the casual eye: more of the "beautiful, rounded hills" typical of Earth's vegetated areas, and fewer sharp, rocky ridges. "Rounded hills are the purest expression of life's influence on geomorphology," Dietrich said. "If we could walk across an Earth on which life has been eliminated, we would still see rounded hills, steep bedrock mountains, meandering rivers, etc., but their relative frequency would be different." When a NASA scientist acknowledged to Dietrich a few years ago that he saw nothing in the Martian landscape that didn't have a parallel on Earth, Dietrich began thinking about what effects life does have on landforms and whether there is anything distinctive about the topography of planets with life, versus those without life. "One of the least known things about our planet is how the atmosphere, the lithosphere and the oceans interact with life to create landforms," said Dietrich, a geomorphologist who for more than 33 years has studied the Earth's erosional processes. "A review of recent research in Earth history leads us to suggest that life may have strongly contributed to the development of the great glacial cycles, and even influenced the evolution of plate tectonics." One of the main effects of life on the landscape is erosion, he noted. Vegetation tends to protect hills from erosion: Landslides often occur in the first rains following a fire. But vegetation also speeds erosion by breaking up the rock into smaller pieces. "Everywhere you look, biotic activity is causing sediment to move down hill, and most of that sediment is created by life," he said. "Tree roots, gophers and wombats all dig into the soil and raise it, tearing up the underlying bedrock and turning it into rubble that tumbles downhill." Because the shape of the land in many locations is a balance between river erosion, which tends to cut steeply into a slope's bedrock, and the biotically-driven spreading of soil downslope, which tends to round off the sharp edges, Dietrich and Perron thought that rounded hills would be a signature of life. This proved to be untrue, however, as their colleague Ron Amundson and graduate student Justine Owen, both of the campus's Department of Environmental Science, Policy and Management, discovered in the lifeless Atacama Desert in Chile, where rounded hills covered with soil are produced by salt weathering from the nearby ocean. "There are other things on Mars, such as freeze-thaw activity, that can break rock" to create the rounded hills seen in photos taken by NASA's rovers, Perron said. They also looked at river meanders, which on Earth are influenced by streamside vegetation. But Mars shows meanders, too, and studies on Earth have shown that rivers cut into bedrock or frozen ground can create meanders identical to those created by vegetation. The steepness of river courses might be a signature, too, they thought: Coarser, less weathered sediment would erode into the streams, causing the river to steepen and the ridges to become higher. But this also is seen in Earth's mountains. "It's not hard to argue that vegetation affects the pattern of rainfall and, recently, it has been shown that rainfall patterns affect the height, width and symmetry of mountains, but this would not produce a unique landform," Dietrich said. "Without life, there would still be asymmetric mountains." Their conclusion, that the relative frequency of rounded versus angular landforms would change depending on the presence of life, won't be testable until elevation maps of the surfaces of other planets are available at resolutions of a few meters or less. "Some of the most salient differences between landscapes with and without life are caused by processes that operate at small scales," Perron said. Dietrich noted that limited areas of Mars' surface have been mapped at two-meter resolution, which is better than most maps of the Earth. He is one of the leaders of a National Science Foundation (NSF)-supported project to map in high resolution the surface of the Earth using LIDAR (LIght Detection And Ranging) technology. Dietrich co-founded the National Center of Airborne Laser Mapping (NCALM), a joint project between UC Berkeley and the University of Florida to conduct LIDAR mapping showing not only the tops of vegetation, but also the bare ground as if denuded of vegetation. The research by Dietrich and Perron was funded by NSF's National Center for Earth-surface Dynamics, the NSF Graduate Research Fellowship Program and NASA's Astrobiology Institute. |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/r.../25_life.shtml UC Berkeley Press Release Life leaves subtle signature in the lay of the land, UC Berkeley researchers report By Robert Sanders 25 January 2006 BERKELEY - snipped.... When a NASA scientist acknowledged to Dietrich a few years ago that he saw nothing in the Martian landscape that didn't have a parallel on Earth, Excuse me! Is this a bad joke! Please show me an earth landscape some four times the size of North Dakota completely covered, inundated and defined by these.......countless billions of /identical/ and unexplained things like these....... http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/180...5L5L6.jpg.html http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...nity_m014.html Show me on earth such a thing. I dare you. After a year the geologists still can't explain them without organics being involved. They can't, ask them. They won't answer beyond the Nasa mandated description of 'hematite rich spheres'. A description, btw is not an identification. They won't even talk about the spheres anymore. Discovery non grata~ The following pdf could be considered the defining paper so far on the findings of the Mars Opportunity rover. After a full year on the surface a detailed overview of the discoveries are presented. The authors of this paper read like a who's-who of the astrobiology and geology communities. An astrobiological perspective on Meridiani Planum http://www.geol.umd.edu/~kaufman/ppt...y/Knoll_05.pdf In the above extensive paper the sum total of references to the much discussed and mysterious spheres, or blueberries as Nasa termed them, follows: "The remaining 10% is comprised of hematite, most conspicuously as 2-6 mm spheroidal concretions that occur throughout the outcrop" That's it! In twenty words or less. Now we must conclude one of two things from this 1) The spheres are uninteresting, they are unimportant. Less than twenty words is all they deserve. Or 2) The researchers are dodging the issue to the maximum extent possible. They mention them, but that's it. Which is it??? And why??? They chose Meridiani because of the strong and unusual signature of hematite there. A form of iron deposition which very typically is associated with bodies of water. Such iron deposition on earth is also /almost always/ the byproduct of microbial activity. But those facts we knew in advance. The hematite is why they went there, where did it come from? It turns out the hematite is entirely in the mysterious spheres or blueberries found everywhere at Meridiani. Only traces of hematite are found in the soil or rocks the spheres are embedded in, it's ......only in the spheres. Determining the source of the hematite requires understanding the processes that formed the spheres. They were the 'talk of the town' from day one, the most eagerly awaitied Nasa new conference of the entire mission was the blueberry bowl measurements. Figuring the spheres out would merely be... THE PRIMARY SCIENCE GOAL Science is about figuring out the unknown NOT RUNNING FROM IT. What that paper does ...not... say, is by far the most interesting result of the rover missions to date. In twenty words or less. Jonathan Various wide angle images of the spheres. http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/136...5L7L7.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/180...5L5L6.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/123...5L6L6.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/530...5L5L6.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/183...5L7L7.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/131...5L7L7.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/020...4L5L6.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/012...5L5L6.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/569...5L7L7.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/013...5L7L7.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/533...5L5L6.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/389...5L7L7.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/440...5L5L6.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/505...5L6L6.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/152...5L7L7.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/162...5L7L7.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/164...5L7L7.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/164...5L7L7.jpg.html http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/170...5L5L6.jpg.html Various micro images of the spheres http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...nity_m014.html http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2956M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2956M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2933M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2953M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...nity_m182.html http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2953M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2953M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2959M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2957M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2933M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2957M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2956M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2956M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2936M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2956M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2907M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2977M2M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2977M2M1.HTML Dietrich began thinking about what effects life does have on landforms and whether there is anything distinctive about the topography of planets with life, versus those without life. "One of the least known things about our planet is how the atmosphere, the lithosphere and the oceans interact with life to create landforms," said Dietrich, a geomorphologist who for more than 33 years has studied the Earth's erosional processes. "A review of recent research in Earth history leads us to suggest that life may have strongly contributed to the development of the great glacial cycles, and even influenced the evolution of plate tectonics." One of the main effects of life on the landscape is erosion, he noted. Vegetation tends to protect hills from erosion: Landslides often occur in the first rains following a fire. But vegetation also speeds erosion by breaking up the rock into smaller pieces. "Everywhere you look, biotic activity is causing sediment to move down hill, and most of that sediment is created by life," he said. "Tree roots, gophers and wombats all dig into the soil and raise it, tearing up the underlying bedrock and turning it into rubble that tumbles downhill." Because the shape of the land in many locations is a balance between river erosion, which tends to cut steeply into a slope's bedrock, and the biotically-driven spreading of soil downslope, which tends to round off the sharp edges, Dietrich and Perron thought that rounded hills would be a signature of life. This proved to be untrue, however, as their colleague Ron Amundson and graduate student Justine Owen, both of the campus's Department of Environmental Science, Policy and Management, discovered in the lifeless Atacama Desert in Chile, where rounded hills covered with soil are produced by salt weathering from the nearby ocean. "There are other things on Mars, such as freeze-thaw activity, that can break rock" to create the rounded hills seen in photos taken by NASA's rovers, Perron said. They also looked at river meanders, which on Earth are influenced by streamside vegetation. But Mars shows meanders, too, and studies on Earth have shown that rivers cut into bedrock or frozen ground can create meanders identical to those created by vegetation. The steepness of river courses might be a signature, too, they thought: Coarser, less weathered sediment would erode into the streams, causing the river to steepen and the ridges to become higher. But this also is seen in Earth's mountains. "It's not hard to argue that vegetation affects the pattern of rainfall and, recently, it has been shown that rainfall patterns affect the height, width and symmetry of mountains, but this would not produce a unique landform," Dietrich said. "Without life, there would still be asymmetric mountains." Their conclusion, that the relative frequency of rounded versus angular landforms would change depending on the presence of life, won't be testable until elevation maps of the surfaces of other planets are available at resolutions of a few meters or less. "Some of the most salient differences between landscapes with and without life are caused by processes that operate at small scales," Perron said. Dietrich noted that limited areas of Mars' surface have been mapped at two-meter resolution, which is better than most maps of the Earth. He is one of the leaders of a National Science Foundation (NSF)-supported project to map in high resolution the surface of the Earth using LIDAR (LIght Detection And Ranging) technology. Dietrich co-founded the National Center of Airborne Laser Mapping (NCALM), a joint project between UC Berkeley and the University of Florida to conduct LIDAR mapping showing not only the tops of vegetation, but also the bare ground as if denuded of vegetation. The research by Dietrich and Perron was funded by NSF's National Center for Earth-surface Dynamics, the NSF Graduate Research Fellowship Program and NASA's Astrobiology Institute. |
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Subtle until life evolves to the point of making bulldozers and
concrete. I wouldn't think Lake Powell would be hard to spot. Greg |
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![]() "Don't Be Evil" wrote in message oups.com... Subtle until life evolves to the point of making bulldozers and concrete. I wouldn't think Lake Powell would be hard to spot. Intelligence is unnatural, it's a fluke, a one in a million earth like planets mutation that also happened to get very lucky. So lucky that intelligence thrives even though it's destined to destroy itself. Intelligence is a plague that only alters and destroys what is natural. Science must search for those few remaining places where intelligence has yet to corrupt, so that we can know what the planet should really look like. Intelligence, as the antithesis to natural, is evil. We have the modern scientific method to thank for turning the greatest and most wondrous creation in the entire known universe....into pornography. Oh I'm sorry, pornography is the natural human form. Excuse me, I forgot. The scientific world is backwards, it's upside down. Good is evil, evil is good...it's insane. I used to wonder what it must have been like to live back in the Dark Ages. Ya know, we don't have to wonder, just look. We're smack in the middle of it. Jonathan s Greg |
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"j" == jonathan writes:
j "Don't Be Evil" wrote in message j oups.com... Subtle until life evolves to the point of making bulldozers and concrete. I wouldn't think Lake Powell would be hard to spot. j Intelligence is unnatural, it's a fluke, a one in a million earth j like planets mutation that also happened to get very lucky. So j lucky that intelligence thrives even though it's destined to j destroy itself. Only human arrogance would equate intelligence with humanity. In other words, there is more than one intelligent species on this planet. -- Lt. Lazio, HTML police | e-mail: No means no, stop rape. | http://patriot.net/%7Ejlazio/ sci.astro FAQ at http://sciastro.astronomy.net/sci.astro.html |
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Intelligence, as the antithesis to natural, is evil.
.... hum... maybe yours is really so (^_^). What's your problem ? Too much traffic in your area ? Your boss is a D.H. ? You are using windows 3.1 ? What's wrong with you to say such depressing things ? I presume that intelligence is the spontaneous tendency of nature to reach "happiness" and self consciousness. I have the feeling that nature tends to life and life tends to intelligence, and intelligence tends to happiness. Of course we are in the realm of philosophy and these are just opinions. We have to wait some millenium or so to get some signal from outer-space civilizations... then just ask them. Cheers, Greg Ruo |
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